Question:
Will I need a car in San Francisco?
That dude
2012-08-19 20:41:34 UTC
I'm thinking about flying out to San Francisco over Labor Day weekend and probably would be staying for 3 days at the most. Never been out there before. I was thinking about getting a hotel in the nice part of Oakland, Ca to save some cash so I can attend an A's game as well. I know San Francisco is infamous for it's trolleys so I was wondering if it would be in my best interests to rent a car or just take the public transportation? I do realize San Francisco is known to be pretty hilly.
Nine answers:
Mariya
2012-08-20 09:33:36 UTC
my advice is dont stay in oakland! if it is your first time here and you want to experience san francisco, why go to oakland? you would have either drive in over the bridge and pay a toll, or take the BART train in, which means staying at a hotel within walking distance of a train station. just my opinion, oakland is dirty, high-crime, and just ugly. if you stay in downtown san francisco, you can still take the BART train to go see an A's game.



so stay in san francisco, and do not get a car. yes you can take public transportation anywhere you need to go within san francisco. you can get a map of the bus system at the airport or at your hotel, or just ask people who look like locals which bus to take wherever you are trying to go. p.s. you can take bart from sfo to downtown sf for like $8.25 so you dont even need a car to get here from the airport, and you dont need to pay $50 for a taxi from the airport.
SFdude
2012-08-20 10:31:29 UTC
A rental car is only useful if you plan to go on day trips (Wine Country, Silicon Valley, Marin). And even then, travelers who don't mind joining a tour group can visit those places without a vehicle. It is especially unnecessary in your case because you only have three days in metropolitan San Francisco anyhow. And one of them will be spent at a baseball game in Oakland.



Exploring the botanical gardens and museums of Golden Gate Park alone is a full day's worth of sightseeing. If you plan on doing the Alcatraz or Angel Island tour, that is basically another half day per island. You can probably catch a glimpse of Union Square, Chinatown, and Little Italy as well. But that is pretty much all you will have time for.



- Reserve a hotel room within walking distance of BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit); some airport hotels are not within walking distance, but offer a free shuttle to the nearest station



- Ride the subway train into the City and use the MUNI (Municipal) buses, modern trams, and historic cable cars. Most vehicles cost $2 for 90 minutes of unlimited transfers. But cable cars are $6 one-way with no transfers offered or accepted. A Day Passport costs $14 and is only worth it if you want to ride the cable car twice. There are only three cable car lines. Buses run on parallel streets too. So it is largely geared towards tourists and not an essential part of the transport system.
tonalc2
2012-08-19 21:06:45 UTC
It's not so much about the hills, it's about parking, which is either non-existent or expensive in San Francisco.



If you're going to be doing touristy things, you can get along on public transportation pretty well. If by "trolleys" you mean cable cars, they're not a real big part of the system.



See about getting a hotel near a BART station, and you can zip in and out of the city with ease.
a la Rimbaud
2012-08-19 22:56:25 UTC
As mentioned, the "trolleys"/cable cars are a very small part of the public transit system in SF/the Bay Area. We also have buses, trains, subway systems, etc... The cable cars are really just for tourists/sightseeing - expensive and you don't get a transfer, nor are they very accessible. If you want to sight see, then pay $5 to take a cable car from tourist destination to tourist destination (Union Square to Fisherman's Wharf). Otherwise, pay $2 to take a Muni bus/light-rail/subway/train, which will also give you transfers at no extra expense for 2 hours.



BART is another transit system that connects Bay Area cities, mostly SF to the East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley, etc...), as well as a bit south of SF. There's also Caltrain, a commuter train line that runs between SF and San Jose.



As for cost... once you factor in the rental, gas, and parking (if in a busy/metered area - definitely all tourist areas - you'll need to either pay for a meter or a parking garage, and even if in a residential area that requires parking permits for street parking, you'll either have to buy a daily/weekly permit or risk getting a ticket if you're longer than the allowed time), it's not cheap (unless you have tons of people with you). Despite the warnings, there ARE areas that are free (w/ no permit required) and easy to park in the city, but they're also not really the areas most tourists would care to go (more neighborhoody, less 5 story Macy's and wax figure of Angelina Jolie-y). Oh, and bridge toll. It's probably cheaper to stay in SF if that's where you want to be most of the time, and use public transit to get around (BART goes right to the Oakland Coliseum).



That said, having a car has it's advantages. You can head to areas in the Bay Area where public transit is minimal, or a hassle to transfer from system to system (North Bay, coastal part of the peninsula and South Bay, etc...). Also, while parts of SF that tourists rarely tread are easily accessible by bus, it's probably more accessible for a tourist to just use a car (rather than learning the full bus map), and inherently opens up more options for exploring the city.



To the person who said nobody needs a car: perhaps true. There are always other means, including walking. But clearly you've never lived in an area with absolutely no public transit, a couple miles from even the nearest store. But yes, in SF/most anywhere with reasonable public transit, you don't *need* a car (but they can be useful, depending on your situation). As for biking... that's an option, but you do still need to deal with traffic (at least if you're following the laws - though cyclists in SF rarely do, and I wish a painful, miserable death upon them for it).
Maui Guy
2012-08-19 21:30:33 UTC
Any savings you get by staying in Oakland will be eaten up fast by parking fees....IF you can find a place to park. If you plan to drive into SF for the day, expect parking to cost you upwards of $40 while in the city, and half your time looking for a space...then there is gas and taxes you'll pay for on top of the rental fee for the car. Stay in SF and walk, taxi or trolley where you want to go...and then use BART for the A's game... Use any of the travel sites to find a fair price for a room...expedia, orbitz, travelocity...
?
2016-10-13 10:57:58 UTC
San Francisco has the appropriate transit on the West Coast. yet that's particularly simply by fact the contest sucks (L.A., Portland, Seattle, Honolulu, and Las Vegas all have awful public transportation infastructure). there's a finished bus gadget, that may take you interior 2 blocks of everywhere interior the city. in spite of the fact that, they are additionally very sluggish and sporadic. it incredibly is incredibly simply by atypical site visitors varieties. you will each and every each and every now and then see no buses for 0.5 an hour, and then all at once have 4-5 of them cluster in one course. interior the city ideal, buses run 24/7 known of the 365 days. Suburban bus provider is far less reliable and has a tendency to close down early interior the night. The subway/rail gadget (BART, MUNI Metro, Caltrain) is a few distance extra beneficial to the buses in terms of convenience and speed, in spite of the fact that it particularly would not circulate everywhere. once you are going to the jetty District or Pacific Heights, case in point, you're fantastically plenty out of success. additionally, the suburban stations are spaced 2-3 miles aside from one yet another. This effectively makes them 'park-and-trip' stations. they are designed to artwork with vehicles extremely than as a alternative for them. Trains many times have their very final runs from lifeless night to a million AM...with provider suspended till the morning go from side to side (4 to 5 AM).
?
2012-08-20 16:37:52 UTC
Number one there is no nice area in Oakland.



Number two minus needing a cab at the airport public transport is all good.
anonymous
2012-08-19 21:50:19 UTC
Take public transport .... its better for you......
Anita Mann
2012-08-20 04:17:42 UTC
Come on out, honey.....you can ride me!


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